Talking to Drawings, Episode 3, Madelon Vriesendorp

Disappear Here: Madelon Vriesendorp in conversation with Sam Jacob

Bringing together material from the RIBA and Drawing Matter collections, the exhibition Disappear Here (RIBA, 2 May – 7 Oct 2018) explores the history, application and implications of perspective, how it spans truth and illusion, linking the disciplines of art, architecture and mathematics. In this podcast series, curator and designer Sam Jacob discusses with various guests the exhibition’s material and themes.

The third episode sees Sam joined by Madelon Vriesendorp, artist and founding member of the Office of Metropolitan Architecture (OMA).

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For the other episodes in the series, see We Suggest, below.


Hans Vredeman de Vries from his book Perspective 1604–5 – Drawing Matter

Hans Vredeman de Vries (*), Perspective, 1604..

John Smythson_Design for house with castellated wing_perspective view.png – Drawing Matter

John Smythson (1535–1614), Design for house with castellated wing, perspective view, 1600.. RIBA Collections.

Adolfo Natalini_Superstudio Sketchbook 12.png – Drawing Matter

Adolfo Natalini (*1941), Superstudio Sketchbook 12, New York, 1969. Ink on paper.


On the truth, or perhaps better lies and fictions of drawing, plausible or implausible – attractive – realities of perspective, Pippa Lewis's Behind the Lines 1 and Behind the Lines 4; on the extensiveness, rationality or irrationality of grids, or the freedom and entrapment of the Continuous Monument and Adolfo Natalini on drawing; for a glimpse of perspectives in the collection; and on narrative in drawing, coming soon, new acquisitions by Madelon Vreisendorp.

Episode 1: with Kent Rawlinson, Head of Collections at RIBA.

Episode 2: with Deanna Petherbridge, artist, curator and author of The Primacy of Drawing (New Haven: Yale University Press, 2010).

Episode 4: with Marie Bak Mortensen, Head of Exhibitions at RIBA and co-curator, with Sam Jacob, of Disappear Here.

Episode 5: with artist Patrick Hughes.